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We're everywhere.Sober N. Agnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08158760381928117064noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8956913129635602924.post-52199038770727611372016-11-21T11:30:00.000-05:002016-11-21T11:30:19.374-05:00AA Logo ArtI can't claim to be an artist. Tho', I do admit to hacking away on somethings that might be considered art like. :) I was fiddling around and added a circle to the Dark Side of the Moon artwork. I've seen it done before, but didn't find it right off the bat. So, here's my version.<br />
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<br />And then something else that I was fiddling around with.<br />
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Sober N. Agnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08158760381928117064noreply@blogger.com0Cleveland, OH, USA41.49932 -81.69436050000001641.309034 -82.017084000000011 41.689606 -81.371637000000021tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8956913129635602924.post-83506494590111532602016-11-19T20:24:00.001-05:002016-11-19T20:25:35.922-05:00Looking outside of myself. = 12th step work. <br />
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I know that it's been some time since there's been a post on this site. I guess life can get in the way. Not that there was any special going on, I just hadn't bothered to to come up with anything to say on the site.<br />
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In any event, it's coming around to the holiday season. It's a time of the year that I personally don't care for. I hate all of the expectations, and I always feel that I fall short. What exactly these expectations are, I'm not sure. It's one of those things that I try not to beat myself up over. Silly, isn't it? <br />
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But I DO know one thing. I always feel better about life when I give of myself. And what better way than to help out at our local central office. So, I'll be volunteering this holiday season at our local office manning the phone banks. <br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: "courier new" , "courier" , monospace;">For many people, a voice on the phone at the Cleveland District Office is their first contact with A.A. They want to know what they can do about where their drinking has taken them. There are also calls from out of town visitors looking for a meeting as well as members asking about A.A. activities.<br /><br />The weekends are an especially important time for the voice of Alcoholics Anonymous to be available. That’s why the Cleveland District Office offers service work to local AA groups by coming in to answer phones instead of forwarding these calls to an answering service on weekends and holidays.<br /><br />Due to a recent drop in group signups, immediate help is needed. Shifts are usually set in 4 hour blocks, but there is flexibility in how the schedule is set. The suggested blocks of time are Saturday and Sunday:<br /><br />9:00 AM – 1:00 PM<br />1:00 PM – 5:00 PM<br />5:00 PM – 9:00 PM</span></span><br />
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If you want to know more, <a href="https://www.aacleve.org/weekend-phone-volunteers-needed/#sthash.8NLSX4fg.dpuf">please check out the local office's site.</a> <br />
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Or just go to their main volunteer page.<br />
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https://www.aacleve.org/for-members/become-a-volunteer/<br />
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The hand of AA was there for me when I reached out.<br />
I need to make sure that there's a hand for the next person seeking help. <br />
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<br />Sober N. Agnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08158760381928117064noreply@blogger.com0Lakewood, OH, USA41.4819932 -81.79819079999998641.434410199999995 -81.878871799999985 41.5295762 -81.717509799999988tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8956913129635602924.post-71292904161946773852016-09-11T10:54:00.000-04:002016-09-12T17:02:11.295-04:00Dear HeroinThis past Saturday's meeting was a fairly sober one. While we're not a "glum lot" the disease of alcoholism and addictions are serious, and they <b>DO</b> kill. <br />
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One of our members lost his daughter this week to heroin. He wanted to share a passage out of her diary with the rest of us, and here. <br />
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First I'll share it written in her hand, and following that is the text that I've written out also. <br />
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I'm writing this letter to say goodbye. I remember when we first met. I was 19. I never suspected how bad you would be for me or the devastation our future would hold. I was blinded by your beauty. You took me into your arms and enveloped me in numbness and warmth. I was floating, everything was beautiful and nothing hurt. I thought that I could control you, but soon you came to control me. The first year was good but the second summer you started to take me over. <br />
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I gave myself to you completely, almost reveling in the darkness and destruction. Indulging in the lovely ritual, the drug, the prick, the way the blood dances and swirls with you. I was completely ready to die for you. It was sad and terrible - beautiful oblivion. <br />
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I have done everything for you, given you everything and all you did was take. I have lied, cheated, manipulated and stolen. I have caused my family and friends unimaginable pain and ruined our relationships. I have lost jobs, wreaked cars, ruined my college education and put myself in many dangerous situations. I have spent 2 years of my life incarcerated because of you. I've been homeless, robbed, and raped. I have wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars. I've degraded myself and sold my body. I hardly know who I am anymore. I am so detached from myself and life. I feel lost. And I am finally ready to say enough. I am through with all the pain, bullshit and degradation. It was fun at first, but mostly it was just horrible. So it's time to say goodbye. It's been real but it's over. You will no longer have control over me. <br />
I am taking back my life.<br />
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It's occurred to me that one of the reasons that people hang onto the idea of religion, is that it's tied to the idea of immortality. Or perhaps it's simply the fear of death.<br />
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Follow this or that dogma, pray to this or that god, and you'll be guaranteed a nice place in the afterlife. If you're raised in a religious family, early on in life, you're taught that you don't really die. Your pet didn't really die, grandma or whomever didn't die, but they're in heaven. Even a "Dog Heaven". (Oh Really?) The reality that they're gone, and won't be coming back, just seems too scary for some, I suppose. Why is it that so many humans find it so horrible to consider the fact that our loved ones, and even one day ourselves, will simply be gone? Like smoke dispersing from a fire, our souls are never to be recaptured again.<br />
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If we're raised within a religious framework we're told that if we pray hard enough, give enough of ourselves, be humble enough, etc. etc., we will be given a mansion in heaven and spend the hereafter with our God. That just doesn't work for me. <br />
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Why is it so hard to just simply say. "Hey! We're here this one time, and we ought to get it right. For no one else, other than for ourselves? What's wrong with doing the right thing just for the sake of it being the right thing to do? Why do we need to have all of these extra carrots? What about teaching our children, and each other, that doing the right thing, for the right reason ought to be enough? The reward? That we can live life with a clear conscience if we do. What if we teach that greed, envy, hate, etc. AND other addictive activities can destroy us? And if they don't, they would at the very least mess with our serenity. We <strong>need, I need, </strong>to live life on life's terms. For an alcoholic / addict, we desperately need to be able to stay sober. No matter what. Because if we don't we have a very good chance that we will fall into a pit of despair. We'll have a life void of joy and happiness.<br />
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For me, the fact that we're only going to be here once, that there's only going to be one today, is a good enough reason. Human life is special. We should try to treasure each other.<br />
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We all will come to an end, sooner or later. But for me, the simple fact that working with fellow alcoholics helps me keep my serenity, and sanity. Even if they don't feel the way I do about God, they help can me, and visa versa. It's a pithy saying, but it still holds true. "Take what you need, and leave the rest." <br />
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<br />Sober N. Agnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08158760381928117064noreply@blogger.com0Lakewood, OH, USA41.4819932 -81.79819079999998641.4344092 -81.878871799999985 41.5295772 -81.717509799999988tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8956913129635602924.post-28870240725902910522016-06-19T12:00:00.000-04:002016-06-19T11:28:13.056-04:00We say goodbye to another friend. It is with deep regret to share this news. Jim was a fun loving character, that I will miss.<br />
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NELSON JAMES LAWRENCE NELSON of Lakewood, OH, departed this life on Sunday, June 12, 2016, at the age of 62, when his giving heart suddenly failed. Jim was beautiful. He will be remembered for his generous spirit, his love of Lake Erie, his absurd humor, and the buoyant personality that so effortlessly carried his colorful fashion sense. Jim's short life was filled with great loves, successes, struggles, and losses. Sadly, recent years' myriad health complications and a lifelong struggle with addiction stole much from Jim, but never his positive attitude or a hope for better days ahead. He is survived by his daughter Phoebe and her mother, Nan Wilson, his daughter Jennifer, sons Paul and Kyle and their mother Mary Kay Nelson, his last wife, Mary Pat Gallagher, granddaughter Olivia, siblings Pat Burns, Nancy Rudd and Dave Nelson, many nieces and nephews, countless friends, Freedom Mortgage colleagues, fellow members of AA, and his beloved dog, Millie Nelson. Memorial open house on Sunday, July 31 from 9:30am to Noon at The Folger Home, 32770 Lake Road, Avon Lake, OH 44012. In lieu of flowers, the family requests donations be sent in his name, either to Ed Keating Rehab Center (Cleveland) or Cleveland Clinic Foundation. Additionally, we ask that you take the time to discuss end of life wishes with your loved ones while you can. You never know when you will need to speak for someone you love.<br />
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<span style="font-size: x-small;">Published in The Plain Dealer on June 19, 2016</span><br />
<span style="font-size: x-small;">From </span><a href="http://obits.cleveland.com/obituaries/cleveland/obituary-print.aspx?n=james-lawrence-nelson&pid=180380806" style="font-size: small;">Cleveland.com</a><br />
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Sober N. Agnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08158760381928117064noreply@blogger.com0Lakewood, OH, USA41.4819932 -81.79819079999998641.4344092 -81.878871799999985 41.5295772 -81.717509799999988tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8956913129635602924.post-64621261539746697392016-06-19T08:00:00.000-04:002016-06-19T13:03:42.466-04:00Happy Birthday One our members surprised our Saturday Meeting with cake. Proving that we are not a glum lot.<br />
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But the message is a bit confusing? 6 month's sober, thanking god for Agnostic Meetings? Hey, it doesn't matter, it's a program of progress, one way or the other. What matters is he's got 6 months in a row here.<br />
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In any event, Congratulations, <b><span style="font-size: large;">Badger! </span></b>Sober N. Agnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08158760381928117064noreply@blogger.com2Lakewood, OH, USA41.4819932 -81.79819079999998641.4344092 -81.878871799999985 41.5295772 -81.717509799999988tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8956913129635602924.post-25874911366406305662016-05-15T19:32:00.000-04:002016-06-19T11:27:14.509-04:00Westside Agnostics History, Per Jeff Cunningham<i>The Following was written by Jeff Cunningham, at one of the last AA meetings that he attended prior to his passing away due to cancer roughly a month later. Jeff was quite instrumental in the early days of the “Westside Agnostics” meetings. </i><br />
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Before we start today, I'd like to ask that you indulge me for a few minutes to impart a bit of group history, which of course does not exist in written form.<br />
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We are upon our second anniversary. Our first documented meeting was January 25, 2014, but I believe our actual first meeting was a week earlier, January 18, 2014. I was elected secretary at the first meeting.<br />
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However, the credit for doing the legwork to start the meeting goes to Emily Valdez and Ryan Broadhurst, who found the venue, day and time - critical steps! Emily moved in 2015 to take a job in San Diego, and Ryan we haven't heard from since around February 2014. I have no idea what became of him.<br />
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They recruited attendees - me included - from the mother ship, We Agnostics on Sunday morning in Cleveland Heights, to attend the first meeting. With the support for many, many months from a dozen or so folks from the east side, we were able to build the meeting we enjoy today. Our weekly attendance of 40ish is larger than many well established, long-term meetings in Cleveland. Only two original members are in the room today: me and Campbell.<br />
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Our topic Wednesday reminded me that this meeting had two important principles accepted by the first group conscience to define our purpose: <br />
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I had a desperate desire - yes, I admit that I tried to impose my will - to get an agnostic meeting listed in the book as quickly as possible. A meeting where others suffering as I had suffered could find refuge in the storm. A suggestion was made that we use an alternative 12 Steps without the references to god. To get listed it was critical that we be an AA meeting - no deviations or other purposes. An operating committee member was required to attend one of our meetings. Deviating from official AA literature was not acceptable. The group opted to use standard AA literature. Our meeting started in January 2014; we were listed in the December 2014 book.<br />
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The second was equally as important to me. I had been tormented by the religiosity heard in most AA meetings, certainly the ones I attended in the western WASP burbs. I always felt like I was in a church prayer group with all the "here's what god did for me today" comments. So I was trying to escape the pressure to pray and get god. I didn't want to turn around and create a meeting where Christians would be as repulsed at god-bashing as I had been at the pressure to get god. The group conscience accepted that principle also - that we <b>would not be a godbashing</b> meeting. While occasionally our topics stray into that territory, for the most part we have avoided it. I'm very uncomfortable when we do because I don't want to drive anyone away.<br />
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Our purpose as a meeting is to discuss how to get and stay sober based on working the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anonymous, particularly the action steps that drive the personality change sufficient to bring about recovery from alcoholism - steps 4-7, maybe 8-9, and 10. Carl Jung talked to Roland Hazard about the most desperate cases requiring a profound mental change, a psychic change, to achieve recovery. Some of his examples were from William James, who also referred to slow, educational changes over time to achieve the same purpose.<br />
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Bill added appendix II to the second edition of the book after constantly being asked about the spiritual experience, the spiritual awakening. In the first paragraph, he defined them as "the personality change sufficient to bring about recovery from alcoholism." Step 12 reads "Having had a spiritual awakening as THE result of these step,..." If we substitute the definition, it reads "Having had the personality change sufficient to bring about recovery from alcoholism as the result of these steps,..." <br />
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So our group purpose is to help each other achieve and maintain that personality change, not to debate theological concepts. Regardless of what god we may or may not pray to, or how hard we may or may not pray, we aren't going to get and stay sober until we undergo that personality change. If praying and getting god were enough, we wouldn't have priests and clergy in the program.<br />
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Bill made this pretty clear in two very subtle phrases - three, actually - in two paragraphs of We Agnostics: bottom of pages 46 and 50. While espousing the wonderful things that happened once we had accepted god, he subtly states "provided we did certain simple things." Those certain simple things are the action steps of the program that drive the personality change sufficient to bring about recovery from alcoholism.<br />
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Regardless of what we were or are as a meeting today, that can be changed with a simple group conscience. I just didn't want that history to be lost. Thanks for listening. I'll now turn the meeting over to Don, our official substitute secretary. <br />
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Sober N. Agnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08158760381928117064noreply@blogger.com1413229 Madison Ave, Lakewood, OH 44107, USA41.4767616 -81.78153880000002141.4291776 -81.86221980000002 41.524345600000004 -81.700857800000023tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8956913129635602924.post-70362431134318300442016-03-05T13:14:00.001-05:002016-06-19T08:28:44.705-04:00A Fond Farewell, Jeff C. <div>
He brought to his home group a ton of common sense. Helped keep things focused on what was important, guiding the Westside Agnostic group to be an AA meeting that ANYONE and EVERYONE should feel welcome. Period. That the <b>only</b> requirement to be an AA Member is simply a desire not to drink. That's it.<br />
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I think that Jeff knew that if things were kept simple, we as a group could be the most help. To help widen the gateway, and keep the gateway open. For myself and those to follow.<br />
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From AA Comes of Age (1957) Bill W. wrote: <i>"...this was the great
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JEFFREY THOMAS CUNNINGHAM, of Lakewood, passed away on February 8, 2016 after a long and brave battle with cancer. He was the father of three beloved daughters - Emily Millay Cunningham, Sophie Katherine Cunningham and Anna Louise Cunningham - and is also survived by their mother, Deborah Cunningham along with partner, Heather Madden and a sister, Kelly Lance of Dayton. He was preceded in death by his parents, John and Margaret (Looney) Cunningham of Akron, Ohio and his sister, Rebecca Cerio of Franklin, Tennessee. Born in Akron, OH on February 2, 1953, he graduated from Akron University with a B.S. in Accounting, and from Case Western Weatherhead School of Management with an MBA in Banking and Finance. He began his career at Comshare and moved to Ernst & Young. Later, he enjoyed a long career as a consultant with SAP. He also worked for Oracle, IBM, and Forte Industries. A transformational figure in the Cleveland area recovery community, his dedication and inspiration have helped many. He was also actively involved in the Cleveland AA Central Office and led weekly groups at two men's recovery houses, the Lantern and Sobriety in Motion. Family and friends are welcome at SLONE & CO. FUNERAL DIRECTORS, 13115 LORAIN AVENUE, CLEVELAND, ON FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 12 FROM 6-8 P.M. where concluding services will be held at 8 p.m. In lieu of flowers, the family asks that donations be made to the Alcoholics Anonymous Cleveland District Office, 1701 E. 12th Street, Suite 20, Cleveland, OH 44114. Interment Lake View Cemetery.<br />
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And for some reason, this song, "Unsteady" seems to make me think of Jeff<br />
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<br />Sober N. Agnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08158760381928117064noreply@blogger.com0Lakewood, OH, USA41.4819932 -81.79819079999998641.4344092 -81.878871799999985 41.5295772 -81.717509799999988tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8956913129635602924.post-89593332766479155112016-01-23T18:52:00.000-05:002016-01-23T18:52:44.559-05:00Club 24 Anniversary <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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Club 24 is having an anniversary meeting on the 31st of Jan at 11:30 AM. Food and fun for everyone. :) <br /><br />
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If anyone has spent any time in AA they know that our "Program" is based on <a href="http://www.soberagnostics.com/p/the-12-steps.html" target="_blank">12 steps.</a> These steps were created by Bill Wilson and Dr. Bob and many others over a period of time trying to find the "cure" for alcoholism. The fist 164 pages of the Big book pretty much are the same from edition to edition, the second part of the book, the personal stories vary. The first 164 pages are the meat and potatoes of the AA program and how it became to be. Like any organization, there were some rough spots. Some might even say that we still have some rough areas to smooth out. <br />
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If you're going to the meetings, and haven't read the book, here's the ePub version of it that was on Google Books for some time. I don't think that I'm violating any copy write laws by allowing access to this. But if it IS still on Google Play / Books, I'm not able to find it any longer. You can <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5Yap2RnQgqRY1hYUHZGc09TLXM/view?usp=sharing" target="_blank">download it here</a>, and freely spread this version around. For what it's worth, there are some other free versions of the Big Book on Google Play, but they're more APPS for your phone than the book it self. The basic text is there, but just a slightly different format. <br />
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<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">AUTHOR’S PREFACE: This is a Study Guide to the book Alcoholics Anonymous. It is dedicated to those who want recovery from alcoholism, but have difficulty with the word "God". Especially, as that word gets used by individuals who embrace traditional religious concepts of what it means to them. Be advised that other ideas and interpretations, which are consistent with the basic AA text, also have value and usefulness in the recovery process.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">Should you choose to follow this Study Guide, you will be presented ideas which<br />this author has found to be consistent with the basic text of AA. However, some of those<br />ideas go beyond the limitations many traditional religions have in their interpretation of the word "God" and what that word means for them. Readers who are open minded (see<br />Appendix II) may discover new thinking about "a power greater than yourself".</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">The three-letter word "God" is generally used to communicate a concept of infinite<br />knowledge and power. Concepts, other than those utilized by traditional religion, do<br />exist. One fundamental idea of God, based upon the basic text of AA, (see pg 55), is<br />being offered in this Study Guide. Some individual alcoholics may find the approach is<br />useful in their personal recovery.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">It is self-evident that no person is qualified to speak for God, nor for AA as a<br />whole. The vital spiritual experience, necessary for recovery from alcoholism, is intensely<br />personal to the individual alcoholic. That is precisely the point. A readers concept of<br />God need not follow traditional lines.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">The experience of the first successfully sober members of AA tells us:<br />"Why don't you choose your own conception of God?" (AA page 12)</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">R</span><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">egardless of whatever approach you choose for yourself, you can be assured that:<br />THERE IS A POWER FOR GOOD, AND YOU CAN UTILIZE IT IN YOUR LIFE.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;">Most of my books are available as ebooks at:</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Ken-Montrose/e/B001K8MG0S">http://www.amazon.com/Ken-Montrose/e/B001K8MG0S</a>.</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;">Thanks,</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;">You can also find an online version of it <a href="http://silkworth.net/bbstudyguide/studyguide.htm" target="_blank">here</a>.</span>christian.bhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04145094930829803292noreply@blogger.com0Lakewood, OH, USA41.4819932 -81.79819079999998641.4344092 -81.878871799999985 41.5295772 -81.717509799999988tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8956913129635602924.post-38788532469338656242016-01-11T06:00:00.000-05:002016-01-11T06:00:04.783-05:00Surprising Internet forum some alcoholics are choosing over AA<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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As much as I and others enjoy our fellowship in Alcoholic's Anonymous, there are those that seek sobriety elsewhere. Or try a mixture of methods. For whatever reason they choose to do so. AA isn't the only game in town to stay sober. While I personally think it's the best, and even treatment programs point their clients to AA or NA (Narcotics Anonymous) AFTER they've gotten treatment, to stay clean and sober on for the long haul.<br />
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In any event there's those that seek sobriety via a Reddit Forum. The Washington Post even did a write up on it. You can find a link to that <a href="http://wpo.st/Q-z11" target="_blank">here</a>.<br />
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The Link to the Reddit Forum is:<br />
<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/stopdrinking/">https://www.reddit.com/r/stopdrinking/</a><br />
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Take Care!<br />
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If you're frugal or just plain broke, There's a neat little App that I just discovered that might prove quite useful for the freshly sober, or those that would like to keep the information handy. It could be a life saver for anyone with a smart phone. They have a <a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.goodbarber.aabigbookfree" target="_blank">Free Version</a> and a Paid for version. So you can take your pick of what you want. Or at least that's what I found on Google Play. I haven't a clue how it works in the Apple App Store.<br />
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It's like someone was listening when someone else said. <br />
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<b><span style="font-size: large;">K</span></b>eep <span style="font-size: large;"><b>I</b></span>t <b><span style="font-size: large;">S</span></b>imple <span style="font-size: large;"><b>S</b></span>tupid.....<br />
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And then, for those that aren't into the whole schmancy fancy Techno Geekey Smart Phone thing. There is: <a href="http://silkworth.net/">Silkworth.net</a>. That site has a HTML online version of the Big Book that you can find right <a href="http://silkworth.net/bb/contents.html" target="_blank">HERE</a>. I'm sure there are still even more resources online for the Big Book, but these are a couple that I figured you might find handy. <br />
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Enjoy, And have fun. For we are not meant to be a Glum Lot. <br />
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-SNA-<br />
<br />Sober N. Agnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08158760381928117064noreply@blogger.com1Lakewood, OH, USA41.4819932 -81.79819079999998641.4344092 -81.878871799999985 41.5295772 -81.717509799999988tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8956913129635602924.post-41044649889160096182015-12-27T15:01:00.001-05:002015-12-27T15:01:15.195-05:00God neutral 12 Steps the "We revision"<div style="background-color: #fbfbfb; color: #00000a; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 1.42857em; margin-bottom: 0.357143em; text-align: center; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px;">
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Drinking and drugs were bad for us.</div>
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We could not do it alone - something about fellowship with other drunks and drug addicts helped us stay sober.</div>
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Having all the answers was not a help--we had to learn to listen and follow directions.</div>
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We had to stop blaming, rationalizing, excusing, and we had to take responsibility, as well as take a good look at ourselves.</div>
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Our version of events was skewed, we needed to run it by someone a bit more objective.</div>
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All of our lives we had been doing things that hurt us, sabotaged our best efforts, our self esteem was warped, twisted, and improperly inflated.</div>
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We had to look at these things, stop doing them, and work on our selves.</div>
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We had shame over how we hurt others - we had to address this in order to move on--we did this by owning our part in things.</div>
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We had to make things right, mostly by living soberly, and by owning our responsibility to people we had hurt (appropriately, discretely, and not to those still raging and drinking).</div>
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We had to learn to use the emergency brake, that means when we started to lie or get angry, we had to learn how to slow down - shutting our mouth was usually a good start.</div>
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We came to understand that in the universe we are just specks and that life goes a whole lot better if we learn to act accordingly and when we forget this basic truth, we need to reflect about it until we remember.</div>
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Whew! When we do these things we are better people, we are happier, we can actually like the person we have become - sometimes people come to us for help and sometimes we have things to say that help them.</div>
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Sober N. Agnostichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08158760381928117064noreply@blogger.com0Lakewood, OH 44107, USA41.4836446 -81.80603941.4360626 -81.88672 41.5312266 -81.725358tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8956913129635602924.post-8028550695118179422015-12-20T17:31:00.001-05:002015-12-20T20:00:21.536-05:00Practicing Buddhism in SobrietyBelow is a link to one of my online folders that contains articles and ebooks on Buddhism that I have found really useful in sobriety. If you like podcasts, my most favorite teachers are Tara Brach, Gil Fronsdale, Jack Kornfield, and Noah Levine (Against the Stream website). Happy to talk/email/text about any of this stuff anytime!<br />
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Christian B.<br />
216-296-9388christian.bhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04145094930829803292noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8956913129635602924.post-73963846921771259902015-12-11T21:11:00.000-05:002015-12-20T13:38:18.554-05:00God Neutral 12 Steps<div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 1.42857em; margin-bottom: 0.357143em; margin-top: 0.357143em; text-align: center; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px;">
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<li style="font-size: 1em; line-height: 1.42857em; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I could not do it alone - something about the AA group helped me stay sober.</span></li>
<li style="font-size: 1em; line-height: 1.42857em; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Having all the answers was not a help. I had to learn to listen and follow directions.</span></li>
<li style="font-size: 1em; line-height: 1.42857em; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I had to stop blaming, rationalizing, excusing, and take responsibility, and to take a good look at my self.</span></li>
<li style="font-size: 1em; line-height: 1.42857em; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">My version of events was skewed, I needed to run it by someone a bit more objective.</span></li>
<li style="font-size: 1em; line-height: 1.42857em; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I had all my life been doing things that hurt me, sabotaged my best efforts, my self esteem was warped, twisted, improperly inflated.</span></li>
<li style="font-size: 1em; line-height: 1.42857em; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I had to look at these things, stop doing them, and work on my self esteem.</span></li>
<li style="font-size: 1em; line-height: 1.42857em; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I had shame - I had to address it in order to move on, to own my part in things.</span></li>
<li style="font-size: 1em; line-height: 1.42857em; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I had to make things right, by living soberly, and by owning my responsibility to people I had hurt. (appropriately, discretely, and not to those still raging and drinking) --- (I did not repay the sick leave I had taken because of hangovers though) I did a much better job at work though.</span></li>
<li style="font-size: 1em; line-height: 1.42857em; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I had to learn to use the emergency brake. When I started to lie or get angry, how to slow down - shutting my mouth was usually a good start.</span></li>
<li style="font-size: 1em; line-height: 1.42857em; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Came to understand that in the universe I am just a speck and to act accordingly.</span></li>
<li style="font-size: 1em; line-height: 1.42857em; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Whew!! I do these things. I am a better person, I am happy, I can actually like the person I have become - sometimes people come to me for help and I sometimes have things to say that help them.</span></li>
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<i>As one of the the one of the authors of this blog, I thought that I might start with the one if not the first post of sharing my experience, strength, and hope. <a href="http://aaagnostica.org/" target="_blank">AA Agnostica</a> does this, and it seems to work for them so well that they have offered up some books to help support their site. Not that I expect this site to be as large as theirs, but I can't assume that one story won't resonate more with one person over another. We have but one common goal. To live a sober and sane life. So far, I've been able to do so for over a decade, and I hope that if you're stuggling, you can find a life that is free from the grips of John Barleycorn. </i></div>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Move forward a few years, 22 or so. I found myself divorced, Alone, and had one DUI to my name. I was getting sick and tired of telling myself that I wouldn't drink the next chance I could. I would usually look at that bottle of beer in front of me, and say tomorrow will be different. I won't drink. Yea, Right. Sure enough by the end of the workday, I'd be looking for a place to settle in, and have a cold one. It wasn't easy, as I was an Over the Road Trucker, and the industry doesn't lend it's self well to alcoholics. So, I did the normal thing, and had a couple of water bottles in the back of the bunk that weren't, ahem, water. Just in case I got stuck someplace. I had also developed a list in my exit guide for the exits that were "alcohol Friendly". You know, Truck stops that had bars, or a store nearby that sold booze. I was very fond of Nevada.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">This mental struggle and argument inside my head went on for a few years. Drinking wasn't fun anymore. Drink was pulling me in, and my illusion that I was in control of it was completely gone. But I was a red blooded American, and others had fought for my right to be able to work hard and play hard. Hell, I had served my country too. This was a RIGHT of mine! I had earned it. I deserved to be able to have a cold one at the end of the work day. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">But, there was wreckage. The normal kind, you know. DUI, Failed Marriage, Foreclosed house, creditors that demanded payment... </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Then one day (In Nevada) I was on my computer drinking a couple cold ones, trying to reach out to old classmate. Hoping to kindle some kind of romance, and see what kind of things she was up to, etc. And luck would have it, we were able to connect on-line. But it didn't turn out the way that I had first thought it would. We caught up on our lives since high school. etc, but then she told me she had been going to AA, and told me about it... and it resonated with me. More so than the thought of getting a hot date, with all the trimmings. I knew I was going to be in the area where she now lived, and we had talked about going to a meeting. I wasn't sure I was though with drinking, but the seed was planted. Someone else had dealt with this mental struggle and found some mental peace. Someone else had had a life that fell apart, and found a solution. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I still had a few stops and a couple of days before I'd be in southern CA, but we had a tentative plan. I still had Saint Patrick's Day plans on spending a day at a casino and drinking a few green drinks. A very weird thing happened that day. As I sat at the bar, another driver came into the bar plopped down some cash and ordered a beer and a shot. Within about an hour, I saw someone that was sober down shots and beers and go from sober to falling down drunk. I saw myself in him. I even helped him stumble out to his truck. The bartender gave me a couple of free drinks for that. But I sat there, and couldn't get drunk. Or at least, I didn't think I was drunk. I have no idea how much I drank. But eventually I went off to bed myself. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The next day I was headed to CA, and the following night I was going to meet up with my friend Suzy, the gal that had been to AA meetings. I had a 12 pack still in the bunk, but as I drove along that two lane highway towards CA, the sun was setting, and the mental argument in my head was driving me crazy. I was tired of being sick and tired of sick and tired. I knew I had to give up. I had to give in. I had to quit. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I parked on the side of the road, while the sun was setting, and tossed that 12 pack into the desert, and yelled at the world that I quit! I JUST QUIT. - I starting to feel some relief from it. I didn't know it, but there were pink clouds on my horizon. I slept well that night. The next evening Suzy picked me up from the truck stop and we went to my first meeting. We talked with some of the others there before the meeting. Man, I could relate in some way to most of these people's stories. Man, there were other people that were like me! </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Then it came to introduce ourselves. I didn't know if I could do it... Could I say the words? Oh man, the committee in my head was struggling with it, as this would be a bell that couldn't be un-rung. Once the words come out of my mouth, and I admit it, that's going to be it. Once those words come out of my mouth, there won't be any going back. Once I say that I'm an alcoholic, I can't be an a non-alcoholic. Once it's said it's going to be done. Oh my, the guy next to me just introduced himself... My turn!! </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">"Hi, I'm Randy, and I'm alcoholic".</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Whew. It's done. I'm one of them now. I'm an Alcoholic. I'm an Alcoholic. </span><br />
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<b><i><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I'M AN ALCOHOLIC!!!!! </span></i></b><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Whew. Wow. What a relief. Wow, what a wave of relief.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">After the meeting, I wanted to sign up. Oh man, where do I sign? What's the dues?</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">No Dues. Nothing needed to sign. Just keep coming back,and get a list of meetings, and some phone numbers.</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">After the meeting Suzy took me to a Mexican Place that is known for their Chicken. I'm not usually a Chicken fan, but that night, that was the best chicken on the planet. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I was free from being sick and tired.</span><br />
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